Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Gun Culture


Gun culture. I’m so sick of hearing that term about America. As if we’re all a bunch of gun tottin’ morons, and what happened 'serves us right'. Blaming the victims is really an ugly thing to do. Give me a break. These things didn’t happen pre-1966, so maybe something has changed in OUR CULTURE! OMGosh, could that be the culture of the 60’s????

For all who don’t know these things (which doesn’t include anyone likely to read this blog):

1. The 2nd Amendment was put into place to protect the citizens from an over-reaching government, a tyranny.

2. “Militia” in 1776 meant all citizens, and yes they provided their OWN firearms.

3. Counties with Concealed Weapons Permits have LOWER gun deaths. Criminals don’t attack someone if they think they might die in the process.

4. Many, many more people use guns to protect themselves, than crazy freakjobs like the VT murderer. Every month the NRA has at least 10 instances where people protected their families with guns. That’s at least 140 saved lives per year (assuming a minimum of one saved life per incident), but in reality it’s MUCH, MUCH higher.

So, fix the culture. A good place to start would be to pipe down on all the ‘hate America’ politics of the left that is so prevalent on campuses. If this guy is a foreigner, which they’re thinking at this moment, he probably thought he was doing the world a favor killing evil Americans, being fed a daily diet of ‘Death to America’, ‘Bush=Hitler’, ‘Imperialism’, blah, blah, blah…..

PS: Yep, he was a S Korean!!! Remember all the protest marches in S Korea??? To their credit, the older S Koreans (who remember the Korean war) marched in support of America.

13 comments:

Brooke said...

I submit that had the State not defied the Second Amendment, someone on campus may have been able to put a stop to this!

"AMERICAN" GUN CULTURE?!?

THIS GUY WASN'T AN AMERICAN!!!

I could just scream! And you're right, Eyes; blaming the victims is repulsive.

American Crusader said...

I was reading your post at TMW's and saw that your dog was attacked and killed?
Was it done by another dog or did someone purposely do it?
I understand if it's none of my business.

Eyes said...

Hi AC, It was an accident of sorts. A shambled gate through which an ultra-violent dog escaped. He had attacked another dog in the neighborhood and slashed that one's throat. Stitches fixed it up. It was a sweet little Boston Terrier. Mine was an equally sweet 13 year old Cattle Dog. She died of a brain hemoragh a week later. The owners of the dog are renters, so I had to track down the owners in California to get them to fix their gate. The renters would have been happy as clams to have their disgusting mongrel kill my 2 terriers... really disgusting people... with an equally disgusting dog.

Eyes said...

Hi Brooke, I can't believe JOhn HOward said something that stupid, in others ways he seems on target. Oh well, I guess it's hard to admit when you've made a horrible mistake, which Australia did by taking the guns away from the citizens.

American Crusader said...

Sorry to hear that. I would have shot their dog without a moment's hesitation.

Brooke said...

I'm sorry to hear about your dog! We have similar moron renters with a pit bull next door. I don't fault the dog for it's breed, but rather for it's uprbringing, so to speak.

Eyes said...

Hi AC, Ya, but then you have to be prepared to shoot the owner too. I just couldn't justify that... She was old and crippled with arthritis, so we knew she wouldn't have been around much longer anyhow... She was a sweet dog though and loved all other dogs and humans alike. Not a mean bone in her body (unlike the present 2, who are scared of almost everything, and act 'tough' as a consequence). A barking dog is not dangerous. It's the silent ones, who charge and kill... Hmmmmm, kind of like that asshat Cho!

Hi Brooke, Pits Bulls are like a magent to asshats. 67% of all dog bites are by Pit Bulls!!!! Personally I think it's a mix of 'strong' breeds and owners. My terriers have classic terrier traits, and I'm sure fighting breeds have classic aggressive traits.

Eyes said...

magnet, not magent:>D Oops.

Brooke said...

I think it's because idiots breed the pits in their backyard and sell them cheaply to irresponsible fools who want a "tough" dog.

The Dane used to be a fighting and hunting dog, but with good breeding and good owners, they are big teddy bears. I imagine the same would be true of the Pit Bull.

William McKinlay - billysam71@hotmail.com said...

1. The 2nd Amendment was put into place to protect the citizens from an over-reaching government, a tyranny.

Indeed - the second amendment was NOT put into place so homeowners could defend themselves against common criminals.

2. “Militia” in 1776 meant all citizens, and yes they provided their OWN firearms.

Again, this was to guard against a tyrannical government - NOT to protect yourself from common criminals.

3. Counties with Concealed Weapons Permits have LOWER gun deaths. Criminals don’t attack someone if they think they might die in the process.

Good 'statistic' that is not actually explained or backed up with actual data.
What is meant by 'lower'? Is this raw numbers? (i.e. there were 2 deaths in one of these counties in rural Nebraska as opposed to 14 gun deaths Nassau County in NYC?)
Is this a percentage of gun deaths related to size of the population?
Explain the number/statistic.


Criminals don’t attack someone if they think they might die in the process.

?!huh!? in all of these mass shooter cases - the shooter went in KNOWING he was going to die! By his own handgun - or by the handgun of another! Fear of 'death' was not an element in any of these actions - nor is it an element in any crime.

4. Many, many more people use guns to protect themselves, than crazy freakjobs like the VT murderer. Every month the NRA has at least 10 instances where people protected their families with guns. That’s at least 140 saved lives per year (assuming a minimum of one saved life per incident), but in reality it’s MUCH, MUCH higher.

Many more people use guns to commit crimes than to defend themselves. 10 instances of 'protection' vs. several hundred instances of gun violence per day? Are you serious with that 'statistic'? 140 lives saved per year vs. over 11,000 deaths per year due to guns? Are you serious with this statistic?

There are ways to abide the intent of the 2nd amendment without allowing every single American citizen to actually own a handgun.

Also, laws can and never will prevent crime from happening - with or without a gun.

I cannot believe the absolute stupidity of mentioning the fact that this individual was NOT American - and/or that this fact had anything to do with this occurrence. These shootings happen at least twice a year in this country - this is the FIRST time a shooting was done by a 'non-American'

Hi Brooke, I can't believe JOhn HOward said something that stupid, in others ways he seems on target. Oh well, I guess it's hard to admit when you've made a horrible mistake, which Australia did by taking the guns away from the citizens.

Again - more blathering of 'stats' without actual facts.

http://www.physorg.com/news85298565.html

The chances of gun death in Australia dropped twice as steeply after 700,000 guns were destroyed in a national firearm ‘buyback’ and amnesty, reveals a decade long study in Injury Prevention.
The study tracks the 10 years following the introduction of gun law reform in Australia between 1996 and 1998.

The legislation was prompted by a firearm massacre in Tasmania in 1996, when 35 people were killed and a further 18 seriously wounded.

The reforms banned the use of semi automatic and pump action shotguns and rifles, destroying more than 700,000 weapons taken from a population of 12 million adults.

The study shows that in the 18 years before the legislation was passed, there were 13 mass shootings in Australia, in which 112 people died and 52 were wounded.

There have been no mass shootings since the law came into force.

The fall in the number of deaths associated with the use of firearms, including suicides, rapidly accelerated after the law took effect.

The decline was at least twice as high (6%) as it had been before the reforms were introduced.

In the 18 years prior to the legislation, on average, 491 people took their lives, using a firearm. After the legislation, this fell to an average of 246.

Similarly, the number of murders using guns fell from an annual average of 93 to just over 55.

There was no evidence that the use of other methods to commit suicide or homicide increased.

Before the introduction of the law, the overall number of homicides not related to guns had increased 1% a year. After the law took effect, this number fell by almost 2.5% a year.

And the total numbers of suicides fell by 4% after having risen annually by 2% before the introduction of the gun laws.


I don't mind a serious discussion of the issues and I'm certainly not 'for' more government intervention into private lives - but, please - come to the table with actual facts and some semblance of intelligence.

Eyes said...

Hi Brooke, Dang, you read my mind. I was wondering what the Dane was bred for... They are beauties and as far as I know, very sweet natured. How do you excersize a dog that large? I've trained mine on the tread mill...

Eyes said...

Anyone care to answer the buffoon

billysam71@hotmail.com ?

I'm too tired fighting other liberals today...

I may pick it up later, but for the moment, I don't have the energy.

Eyes said...

Sorry billysam71, looks like nobody is interested in responding:>) La tee dah...